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EDIT: WHEN I SAID TAKE IT TO THE ACTUAL YOUTUBE PAGE: I DIDNT MEAN GO THERE AND FIGHT. lol. I meant peacefully share your opinions THERE especially if you want Ellie to see it.. 🙂
No for reals. If anyone knows Seoulbeats, they should know Ellie. I watch all her VLOGs and she always has an interesting take on kpop, not to mention she’s hilarious as shieeett. Check out her latest video on SNSD! I know some of you might not agree with her opinion, but if you truly want to argue with her: take it to the actual video page 😛 Though I won’t mind reading some of your thoughts here.
cracker said:
nice video. gd job. 1st?
Nothing Without 9!!!
Daniel said:
hmmm… nice opinion…
but for me snsd is the best.. all of them
9…
no one is left behind…
flint_YoonShiDae said:
okay i think maybe she has some point but its all only an opinion, and for me 9 is where the power is…^_^
9 genies to make your wish come true
9 ladies to rock your world…:D
anyways, they’re all talented in their own ways, so yeah…its all good..^_^
shervin814 said:
I’m going to comment here because I believe that arguing with youtubers lowers your IQ :P.
Anyways, I kind of agree with her that two groups might be a good idea, although one group will eventually become better than the other, and I don’t want to see that happen.
Although I’m not attracted to all of them equally, they definitely all deserve love and fan support. They’re all really talented.
They should probably just do what 2pm and 2am did.
floofyotter said:
i don’t like this girl. there’s just something about her just seems …. cocky and ignorant.
1) she’s not funny
2) she’s saying SNSD is successful cuz Wonder Girls went to America (incorrect)
3) she’s not a SNSD fan, if you’re not a fan, you clearly don’t know enough
They’re the top girl group of Asia right now. clearly they have a winning formula, which includes having 9 members, so she has no idea what she’s talking about.
Genie07 said:
I agree with you, Wonder Girls going to America made SNSD successful? Psssh, SNSD was already successful to begin with.
Comparing SNSD’s albums sales with WG’s, well SNSD wins.
>>The power of NINE, ftw.
sarah said:
i TOTALLY agree with you
we true SONES support all 9 members of this beautiful amazing talented group.
Popbeep said:
no shes not u idiot
Chelsea Smile said:
Agreed. LOL the first time i saw that slut’s face i felt like smashing the screen 😛 i bet this bitch is just indirectly dissing SNSD…
Just cuz Wonder Girls hit super stardom earlier than SNSD with “Nobody”, it doesnt mean they’re better. N SNSD was alr popular before WG even went to America. Maybe SNSD kicked WG’s ass to USA when they released Gee LOLOLOL!!! 😀
Oh! said:
I soo agree with u all. This girl is prolly a wonderful. Pfft.. SNSD is more talented and hotter than WG. SNSD songs are better. Plus they still have all their members left. You don’t see SM throwing out like sooyoung and replace with *random name* and then again kick out like sunny and replace with *chinese girl*. Hae lim sucks btw. I prolly come off as an WG anti, but I’m not. I actually like them but I’ll bash any group when they’re being compared to the almighty SNSD! ♥
S♥NE!
Sooooonees said:
Since,it’s coming from a fangirl ,i dont think it has any credibility in it anymore..btw she’s a cassie.And dont forget the dbsk and Snsd cf..Jealousy maybe 1 the factor.
SNSD is sucessful becoz of Wg is in america?If you guys dont know SNSD has more fans then WG in Korea and Asia
jun said:
^ don’t get carried away, they are not the top girl group in asia, They are not that popular in some of the biggest markets in asia, such as China, Japan, Taiwan and HK. SNSD would’ve been mad successful in Korea no matter what, but with WG not there, it was definitely a bonus for them. I agree that she’s not that funny, but there are some truth to her words.
dashley said:
all i have to say is…she is not a sone. thats all.
greeen_tee said:
She puts a lot of emphasis on the male fans, but obviously doesn’t realize that they have a 48% female fanbase in Korea, with an even bigger one internationally.
As for the rest, SNSD is 9. End of story.
so9 said:
she was never a fan of SNSD to begin with.. i read seoulbeats from time to time.. She herself is quite new to the kpop. and i have to say the 9 is what make SNSD so unique, 9 is where the power is. They do not need to be 4. another thing is she’s talking through her american point of view. it doesn’t work over there ELLIE!!!
marie said:
and i don’t understand why the author have to agree with the “CL lookalike”
1) she’s not funny
2) she talk on a girl point of view
3) she needs to consider SNSD has a lot of female fans as well..
4) 9 is where the power is..
5) she needs to watch SNSD videos before opens her mouth!!!!
AKARekz said:
hehe~ no need to get mad over this video, just listen to the lady. some of the things on what she says are true facts, and some are opinions. yes people don’t know much, but who does? no one.
yeah there’s something that makes me not like this girl, but you have to have some respect on her for having the guts to actually say these kinds of things…
i am a sone, a big big sone.
and what she said about SNSD having to many members kinda made me giggle… it’s like saying that Super Junior should have 5 members instead of all 13 of them, then again, some of you are going to relate to how each of the are grouped, such as SJM and all that. yeah, but it’s better if you just keep them separated and named differently.
but yeah. just listen to her facts and opinions, she may not know much, but it’s good to listen to someone who actually knows about SNSD.
puffie said:
she has a very interesting take on snsd and i like her too. lol she’s funny. i agree with everything she said except for two things, the title of the Vlog and the WG thing. she said some things about snsd’s popularity and to someone who isn’t familiar, it may sound exaggerated but it’s really true haha. so my opinion is they wouldn’t be as popular if they had 4 members only.
but what nonfans wouldn’t ever understand is why snsd needs 9 members. i like some of the members of Suju and i also dont see why they have to have 13 members, but ELFS think otherwise because they’ve learned to love the whole group and feels that the group isn’t complete without 1 member. just because. also, i’ve tried toning the 9 members down to 5, or at least 6, i’ve even tried 7, but i can’t.
as for WG going to America, i say Gee was bound to be a hit. it’s so annoyingly addictive that everyone has been singing it. SNSD’s popularity sky-rocketed cause of Gee, and i think they would’ve still been popular w/ or w/o WG. the 9 wins though would probably be cut off to a smaller number had WG released something in between.
Seraphis said:
Well, she has her opinion and I wouldn’t go as far as to say that her opinion is wrong. It’s her opinion afterall.
I think that saying that SNSD is less popular when WonderGirls were in Korea is somehow untrue because when WonderGirls were in Korea, they were at their peak with songs like ”Tell Me” and ”Nobody” while SNSD just debuted for probably a year or so, with songs like ”Kissing You”. I mean if you compare ”Gee” with ”Tell Me”, provided that both songs were released in the same time, I highly doubt that ”Gee” would be inferior compared to ”Tell Me”.
Also, 9 might be too many for her, but it is not the case for everyone. In fact, the number makes them not only unique, it allows the members to complement one another in terms of talent.
I have been looking for an answer to the Anti issue and I have to say she nailed it. No matter how much the anti tries to mask their jealousy by writing a 10-paged essay about how SNSD is causing moral degradation, at the end of the day, it’s just because they are jealous.
Sorry to let loose of my opinion here, but I seriously wouldn’t consider typing them on Youtube, since the replies there are mostly retarded and full of fan-war stuff.
RukiXsu said:
She has interesting points and shes right about yoonah but having them split into sub groups i wouldnt mind just not fully split into different groups SNSD Shined as 9 and will still shine as 9 and it would be better if some had more light even a part in a song in that matter like CHOCOLATE LOVE SooYoung never sang at all only for the chorus so it would be nice to see more then just Taeyeon Jessica AND Tiffany even tho i love them and I dnt really pic a favorite(Yoonah) lol but i love all 9 even Hyoyeon
A Sunny Dae said:
HEY GUYS!I grow my own illegal patch of “GEE” reply and ill ship some to you!(strictly 4 SONES!), GEE was so awesome it even made the dead dance!and although her theory of splitting the group was interesting, its not SNSD without !9! feel the POWER!(of 9)
Sones said:
@jun WG??Seriously With Gee …i think not even WG can stop them…but seriously if you think so i wont stop you.
But honestly never ever take a fangirl words for real.No overreaction at all.You never know what this gal named Ellie hates and likes..she already showed that she’s jealous by saying that …i want to join snsd too ,cos i want boys to flock to me ….aw this is crap.Based on this ,we can already infer she is jealous.
eagle said:
you guys need to chill out. the good thing about the video is that she’s not a big fan of snsd. therefore she doesn’t just see the good things about snsd.
don’t get me wrong i’m on this site because i like the girls and i can’t picture them as anything else but 9 ,but it is quite ridiculous that there is a 9 person group. i’ve seen how they work together and how they act so it just doesn’t bother me anymore.
i also agree with the wg thing. snsd might sell more records but popularity wise wg used to be one step ahead. gee would’ve no doubt been a hit but they skyrocketed because there was no other real competition at the time. it wouldve been a marketing tactic on sm’s end to release it then.
obviously she’s not a fan and doesn’t know everything about them but there are some things that are facts and not opinions.
Boss Lady said:
Lord.
I really only posted this video and I’m sure I made it obvious that this was the girl’s opinioin. Personally I found it funny and yes I don’t agree with some parts, but who are we to judge one’s OPINION? Everyone has their own thoughts and I am so sure that many other people out there probably disagree with every single one of your comments. I’m not saying anyone is wrong or right but hey, let’s put the torches down like Ellie said and..give her credit for the balls to say this stuff.
Personally I expected more bashing from Ellie but it seems like she does take a liking for SNSD in a way. Lets not hate on her for this video ’cause I do dig seoulbeats and their videos. Maybe its just me but I like their humor. 😛
Boss Lady said:
And don’t take her words too seriously guys. Yeah sure she isnt a fan, but at the same time…you can at least see different sides to snsd. If she were a fan, who knows? She might be biased and only give out positive comments. What fun is that?
AND AND: lol What I meant by going to her youtube page..wasn’t to start a war. I was gonna say go there and peacefully tell her what you thought of the video. PEACEFULLY. She reads most of the comments.
crazy51 said:
LOL. Yeah, let’s not hate, guys!
I love Ellie! Haha yeah I was expected more bashing from her… but no, I actually think she is soften up to SNSD lately. Haha maybe it’ll be like how sookyeong@K-Bites used to dislike SNSD (as seen in her comments back then) and now she apparently loves all nine and what not 😛
Anyway, now I have a reason to post that SNSD Roster History post XD
Boss Lady said:
DO POST IT! hehe i couldnt help but peek at it a day ago 😛 i like it!
chinesebutterfly said:
lol. omg. she’s hilarious. totally agree with a lot that she said. im surprised i never came across her before on YT.
Popbeep said:
guys stop freakin out
she doesnt have to be fan to give out her opinion
i agree with her (partly)
Bushido said:
You guys are sure defensive. haha
I disagree with a few comments she made (ie. Wonder Girls) but what she said wasn’t that bad.
When I first got into SNSD, I thought they should of been split as well. Wanted only Tiffany, Taeyeon, Yoona, and Yuri in the group but slowly started to love Jessica, Seohyun, and Sunny as well. Slowly been liking Sooyoung.
The reason that Hyoyeon does not get much love is because she isn’t really that pretty, especially compared to the rest of the group. She adds a different element to the group and glad she there.
JJ said:
you all should really go and check her vlogs…it is good
and
keep one thing in mind, the videos are under the COMEDY category… So just understand….
hehe said:
i’m too lazy to watch the video but i’m happy just sticking with my 9 thank you very much 🙂
snsd hwaiting!!!!
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Seng Aun said:
gawd i love this site. one controversial video and the silent readers pop out one by one 😀
i was kinda shocked when i watched the video. heck, even the title itself says a lot already. i agree on some parts, but like Boss Lady has repeated herself so many times, it’s her opinion. Opinion. It’s just an opinion. respect and constructive criticism is what she (Ellie) had.
so, let’s just keep the discussion and comments intellectual and civil guys. you’re doing a great job so far!
1MaknaeToRuleThemAll said:
When I first saw this post, my immediate though was, “hmm, Boss Lady is trying to rope the silent lurkers of the site into commenting”.
Well, there’s nothing wrong with reacting strongly to an opinion. Actually, it’s a good thing, because I’m having trouble figuring out what exactly Ellie is arguing anyway.
janeberryblue said:
OMG I LOVE ELLIE.
and YES what she says is SO TRUE. any snsd-anti is in actuality crying themselves to sleep everynight because they are not and will never be a snsd member XD
she knows how to be funny without bashing. thanks for sharing this here. it was muchos funny ^^
thatonezombie said:
This was a good video to watch. She supported her opinion. I respect all her points she brought up and hey, some of the things she did made me laugh a bit.
Like how she mentioned how people look around for privacy before they do a little Gee dance. I personally dont even look around, I just do it. I dont even do the chorus, I do the forearm thing where Taeyeon steps in the front and the rest of the girls bring their forearms in front of their faces one, pull it back and do it 3 more times in quick succession.
But in any case, thanks for sharing the video and I have nothing against this at all.
cris said:
i like most of what she said, like seriously. idk about you guys, but i think she really made sense. her humor is ok with me. cause i was used to read her usual “bashy” articles about snsd. so i think this VLog is good, for a change. 🙂
about splitting the group. half agree. first off, snsd is nothing without 9 blah blah blah. enough said. but she has a point because it’s kinda easier to remember all members if there are like 5 or less people in it. it took me a month to memorize the names and faces of snsd and another to match the names with the faces. get what i mean? dont ask about suju… also, everyone gets to shine (equally?). but that’s it. that’s the only downside to that.
dont get me wrong though. i love what (and how many) snsd is right now. and i wont change that. 🙂
B said:
She’s incredulous. I really need to applaud her for being able to make this speech without making ppl hate her for it. I guess she’s just good at being frank and still maintain her neutral-ness stimulataneously.
Nevertheless, SNSD will always, ever be 9 (:
FierceChickkk said:
I think everyone would see everything in a whole different way if they become more open minded?
I’m a Sone, but I totally dig this vlog. It’s funny cause in her vlog she mentioned a lot of stuff I actually thought about before but never really talked to anyone about.
& I’m always down for people who can make me laugh.
“You probably don’t think I’m hot, but I’m in this group so you probably think I’m hot” lmfaooo.
and I totally agree with your anti’s theory. They’re fueling the fireee and I’d just totally feed on that for breakfast if I was SNSD. Might as well get them some “I ❤ HATERS" shirtsss.
keep up the good work!
pikachu jr said:
Um…Well, I think its great she invested time and effort in creating a video of SNSD. Plus, she did have some good points. BUT I agree with “floofyotter”, she simply annoyed me! Dont get me wrong, I respect her opinion & I am glad she expressed he mind but I had to force myself to finish the clip. All I can say to her and her fans is: Good Luck and Keep supporting “Our Girls” / Girls Generation.
-SNSD Fighting!
Yuri-ahhh said:
oh guys, you all react so negatively. she’s just sharing her opinion. and hey, she said she like SNSD. don’t feel bad, it’s her opinion. she’s not dissing the girls,she actually likes them.
soshi_fan said:
for me, snsd is successful coz they have alot of people supporting them..from kids to elders..unlike wg, their fans limited to teenagers and adults only…but, i like snsd coz their personalities, songs and their bonds make me attracted more to them…wg, also in my support too…both groups really suitable for all range age…( unlike that group that use their body to get popular although their faces are soo ugly, showing their underwears and bikinis in concert,stupid behaviour)….anyway, SNSD and WG hwaiting!!!
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